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New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo (L) speaks to New York Assembly leader Sheldon Silver before Cuomo delivered his fourth State of the State address from the New York State Capitol in Albany, New York, January 8, 2014. REUTERS/Mike Segar
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is satisfied with Ken Langone's Hitler apology.
Billionaire Home Depot co-founder and Hitler analogizer Ken Langone offers a master class in how to get headlines saying you've apologized without actually apologizing. After he was quoted saying of a renewed progressive focus on economic inequality that "if you go back to 1933, with different words, this is what Hitler was saying in Germany," Langone had this to say:
"My remarks were intended to discourage pitting one group against another group in a society. If my choice of words was inappropriate—and they well may have been that—I extend my profound apologies to anyone and everyone who I may have offended," Langone said in the statement.
Ah, the good old "if" my comparison of people who want to tax me a little more to Hitler was inappropriate, combined with the classic "I apologize to anyone I may have offended." To be fair, he adds that little extra touch of acknowledging that his Hitler comparison "may well have been" inappropriate. Oh, well, you don't get more definitive than that, right?

Actually, no. Nowhere here does Langone actually say he's sorry for having said something terribly, historically wrong that both cheapens the magnitude of the Holocaust and demonizes his political opponents over a routine, if significant, policy disagreement. He's just sorry if anyone got their fee-fees hurt over his possibly inappropriate choice of words. And someone actively pushing for our government to be run more and more for the benefit of the super-super-rich is getting self-righteous about pitting one group against another? As if starving services for everyone else by demanding lower taxes for yourself ranks nowhere on the pitting one group against another ladder.

Langone's "apology" gave New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, for whom he is a major fundraiser, just enough room to send his spokesman out to say that Langone "apologized for using inappropriate words." So, yay, Cuomo gets to keep benefiting from Langone's "Republicans for Cuomo" largesse, meaning he doesn't have to give up his prize for running New York as much as possible to the benefit of billionaires. If Cuomo has the presidential ambitions he's generally believed to have, this shows a political calculation so stupid it should immediately disqualify him from the presidency. Because Republican billionaires might be happy to raise money for a conservative Democratic governor in a deep blue state like New York, but they're not likely to support him in a presidential race against an actual, viable Republican candidate and taking their money and doing their bidding will only alienate Democratic primary voters. Which is all to the good. So go right ahead, governor. Link yourself to the "liberals are like Hitler" guy.

Originally posted to Laura Clawson on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:01 AM PDT.

Also republished by New York City and Daily Kos.

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  •  German industrialists in the early 1930's (25+ / 0-)

    ... thought they could control Hitler and use him to get rid of the Socialists and Communists threatening their stranglehold on society.

    Yeah, there are Hitler comparisons here.  But not the ones more-Catholic-than-the-Pope Ken Langone thinks.  Those comparisons don't make Andrew DINO Cuomo look too good, either.

    We have always been at war with al Qaeda.

    by Dallasdoc on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:04:42 AM PDT

  •  In the war of the classes, Langone apologizes (12+ / 0-)

    between artillery volleys and air strikes, while pleading for the lower classes to no throw a pebble back...or even discuss the dropping bombs.

    "Searches with nonspecific warrants were ‘the single immediate cause of the American Revolution.’” Justice Wm. Brennan, referring to the 4th Amendment

    by Nailbanger on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:11:24 AM PDT

  •  If a pig like Langone supports Cuomo, (16+ / 0-)

    Then Cuomo is a pig.   The associative property of pigdom.

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:23:07 AM PDT

    •  some animals are more equal than others-G Orwell (12+ / 0-)

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:35:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  It isn't just that Langone supports Cuomo... (9+ / 0-)

      Cuomo was quiet about the whole mess and as soon as Langone "apologized," Cuomo re-asserted HIS support of Langone. He could've maintained his silence, but he didn't.

      That's past the associative property and I think we're far into real equivalence here:

      Langone = Cuomo = pig,  just like 6/12 = .5 = one half.

      Math does not lie.  

      "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~Edward Abbey

      by koosah on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:36:10 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Well done! :-) (3+ / 0-)
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        Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

        by TomP on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:39:02 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Same logic applies to Greg Abbott and Ted Nugent. (2+ / 0-)
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        Oh, sorry, I forgot, the laws of the universe don't apply to Republicans: IOKIYAR.

        "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. But we can't have both." - Justice Louis Brandeis

        by flitedocnm on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:47:38 AM PDT

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      •  Cuomo .. who already enjoys a 20% popularity (2+ / 0-)
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        advantage in New York ... seems to want to bolster his National popularity by stroking the Fee Fees (and the pee pees?) of Not-Totally-Crazy Republicans -- and ok, some of the crazies, too, if it can be managed.

        He is:

        "Socially progressive" :  Marriage Equality,  Medical Marijuana  and  "Equal Opportunities" -- not insulting the Black and the Brown more than can be avoided.

        and

        "Fiscally conservative" ... Free Markets, Charter schools, gentrification/development  -- more and bigger more tax cuts for the Job Creators and Prosperity Makers.

        Meet the New New Democrat ... same as the Old New Democrat. -- only more so.

      •  Wow, a pure mathematician koosah. (1+ / 0-)
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        koosah

        I really would have appreciated that in a formula (you know, with a's, b's, x's and y's, but most of us can do the math anyhow), but it works just the same!  Blood on the ice, who cares if it isn't yours?

        I'm damaged and I like it, it made me what I am! BTW, my avatar is as stollen as my father's retirement fund, the old man died almost penniless. Bankers don't go to prison for breaking our laws, they buy bigger yachts.

        by Damaged262 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 10:12:05 PM PDT

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    •  Pigs come in all forms (6+ / 0-)

      Watch them or they'll rob you blind.

      I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

      by Satya1 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:36:50 AM PDT

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      •  I was pleased to hear (0+ / 0-)

        that the person the song was aimed at, Saul Zaentz, had died a couple of months ago. (The song was originally called "Zanz Can't Dance".) Zaentz was president of Fantasy Records when Creedence Clearwater Revival was the best-selling American rock band in the US. He made sure that all their money went to an offshore bank, and just around the time that the band had passed their commercial peak, the bank "collapsed" and the band found their money gone. Oddly enough, within a couple of years, Zaentz had enough cash on hand to go into movie production.

        Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

        by milkbone on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 11:31:01 AM PDT

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    •  But the left is winning! (0+ / 0-)

      But I thought, from all of those articles critiquing Adolph Reed, that the left is winning!

      So, clearly, this can't be true. Nope. Nope.

      •  Huh? Not sure how that fits my comment. (0+ / 0-)

        Really, I do not understand your comment.  Reed has a critique and sees little to no difference between the parties.      I don't know of any critique of Reed saying the "Left is winning," but I don't read everything.  By the way, what is the Left.  Bernie Sanders?  Socialists?  Anarchists?   Bourgeois radicals seeking to perfect capitalism?  Anti-racists?  Those seeking to lessen economic inequality?  Those seeking to end any economic inequality?  Anti-imperialists?

        Granted, there appears to be a Team Left on Daily Kos, but that is just for sporting people who play games.  Bu definition, Team Left cannot win because then teh game on Daily Kos would be over.    

        So I really do not understand your comment.  But you do, and that is all that really matters.      

        Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

        by TomP on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 12:47:50 PM PDT

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        •  Sorry for any confusion (0+ / 0-)

          There have been a number of critiques (I've read some in Salon, TAP, other places) of Reed's argument that amount to "Bill DeBlasio and Elizabeth Warren won, so there is a new populist resurgence in the Democratic Party!" However, if there was such a "resurgent progressive populism," then someone like Andrew Cuomo would not be gliding to an easy victory, unchallenged, in one of the nation's bluest states. Rahm's existence and (surprising) continued popularity also undermine the critiques of Reed. I was being sarcastic in my original comment, and that might not have been conveyed clearly.

          •  Something that many fail to realize. (0+ / 0-)

            New Yorkers, at least from the right (I mean proper, the left part of the state) on the Western edge of the state, don't think of R vs D in the same light on the state level as the national level.  There have been many state representatives that have voted against what would be considered national party lines.  Sadly, our state government is so f*cking corrupted that it just doesn't matter, we pay some of the highest taxes on the PLANET so that we can feed downstaters and we don't even get a decent price on electricity, even though we have the MOST cost effective form of energy creation, the Niagara Falls.  That goes to downstate, other states and Canada for Christ's sake.  We should be paying 5 bucks a month no matter how much we use, it's clean, it's plentiful and it's completely renewable, yet we import dirty, pollution filled energy while the clean shit we make goes elsewhere.  We even have windmills in Lake Erie.  IT MAKES NO SENSE, unless you're a politician and you feed off the corporate shills.  Welcome to NYS, bitches!  Seem fair to you?  It's like paying $50 for a steak in Texas, what idiotic Texan would pay $50 for any cut of meat?  Yet we have a state that's 98% okay with getting raped, except Law and Order SVU of course.  

            I'm damaged and I like it, it made me what I am! BTW, my avatar is as stollen as my father's retirement fund, the old man died almost penniless. Bankers don't go to prison for breaking our laws, they buy bigger yachts.

            by Damaged262 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 10:30:44 PM PDT

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            •  Oh yeah, our water is next. (0+ / 0-)

              Why not make a pipe line to desert states who need water.  BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN A DESERT!  That's also up for grabs, just sayin'.

              I'm damaged and I like it, it made me what I am! BTW, my avatar is as stollen as my father's retirement fund, the old man died almost penniless. Bankers don't go to prison for breaking our laws, they buy bigger yachts.

              by Damaged262 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 10:32:37 PM PDT

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  •  Hope Mr. Langone isn't offended if... (8+ / 0-)

    I don't shop at Home Depot anymore.  

    That's all she wrote...

    •  In a word (2+ / 0-)
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      Lowes

      •  And Ace Hardware. (6+ / 0-)

        2nd snowiest winter on record in Chicago, and who had sufficient supplies of snow shovels? You guessed it. Not Home Cheapo™.

        Gods can do anything. They fear nothing: they are gods. There is one rule, one Seal of Solomon that can confound a god, and to which all gods pay service, to the letter: when belief in a god dies, the god dies. -- Harlan Ellison

        by bsmechanic on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:53:06 AM PDT

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      •  You think? (2+ / 0-)
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        livingthedream, annominous

        Just saying, this doesn't look good:

        Set loose by the Citizens United Supreme Court decision, political spending by U.S. corporations broke all sorts of records during the 2012 election year. Many of the largest U.S. retail chains are voluntarily disclosing details about their political spending and campaign contributions to 2012 political campaigns to their shareholders and consumers, even though they're not required to. But Wal-Mart, Lowe's, and Amazon are among the retail chains that are keeping their campaign contributions a secret,
        with some actual rankings:
        57 Wal-Mart
        Wal-Mart's 2012 Political Disclosure & Accountability Score - 5

        56 Lowe's Corporation
        Lowe's 2012 Political Disclosure & Accountability Score - 6

        56 Bed, Bath & Beyond
        Bed Bath & Beyond's 2012 Disclosure & Accountability Score -

        link

        For context, the scale used goes up to 72, with 72 being the best for Political Disclosure & Accountabilty

        IOW, Lowes is really, really dismal in this regard

        •  What a world, what a world. (1+ / 0-)
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          It's all academic until you need a new hot water heater. Lightbulb. Faucet. Power drill. Drill bits.

          Then you get to pick: DIY with one of the big boxes or hire a contractor who has access to wholesalers.

          The contractors in my (red) neck of the woods are all "libertarians" meaning, they start out with high bids but will give lower the price if you agree to pay in cash.

          Meaning, let's keep the transaction off the books. Meaning they don't pay taxes and will pass some of the "savings" on to you, the customer (meaning the gubmint-hating partner-in-crime).

  •  "Please proceed, governor"… n/t (5+ / 0-)

    Baby, where I come from...

    by ThatSinger on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:36:08 AM PDT

  •  If you go back to Langone's original (6+ / 0-)

    statement, with different words, then he has nothing to apologize for!

    Marx was an optimist.

    by psnyder on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:36:59 AM PDT

  •  "being a billionaire means never having to say (10+ / 0-)

    you're sorry"

  •  memo to all nopologists: (4+ / 0-)
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    If you're not actually sorry, shove your "apologies" up your arses.

    Got it?


    "Republicans are shameless dicks. No, that’s not fair. Republican politicians are shameless dicks." - Al Franken

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:41:54 AM PDT

  •  "...may have been an apology..." NOT (1+ / 0-)
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    "...If my choice of words was inappropriate—and they well may have been that—I extend my profound apologies to anyone and everyone who I may have offended,"
    As certainly as his words were offensive, his apology is not an apology. It's also not profound.

    I think that Republicanism is revealing itself as a personality disorder, not so much an ideology." -- Naomi Klein

    by AllanTBG on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:44:25 AM PDT

  •  Home Depot (5+ / 0-)

    Another store I will never shop at again. Join me.

  •  What Laura said. (7+ / 0-)

    During a Republican anti-Cuomo tv ad this morning, I turned to my wife and said, "You know, he might as well BE a Republican."

    And I silently wished for the days his father held the office.

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:45:32 AM PDT

  •  The best way ... (3+ / 0-)
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    koosah, Dem Beans, livingthedream

    ... to be a leader in the fight against "pitting one group against another group in a society" is to compare your critics to Hitler.

    Am I like Hitler if I doubt his sincerity?

    Patriotism is the FIRST refuge of the scoundrel.

    by Tony Seybert on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:46:02 AM PDT

  •  2 stupid 2 tell Hitler From IKE (5+ / 0-)

    Progressives want to return the tax rates to what they were under  REPUBLICAN president Eisenhower - sorry if Langone hasn't the brains to tell Hitler from Eisenhower

  •  1% Embraces Nazi Propaganda Theme Of "Envy" (8+ / 0-)

    The themes of saving the fatherland from "envy" and "class warfare" and "jealousy" are direct quotes from Joseph Goebbels.  

    And there is a war on. We hate them from the bottom of our souls because they threaten our very life, because they oppose our national existence out of envy, jealousy, and ill-concealed national pride.
    -Joseph Goebbels (1933)
    The themes of saving the fatherland from "envy" and "class warfare" showed up repeatedly in Nazi propaganda.
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    I have been chronicling this for years - these extreme nutjobs started using this strategy with Glenn Beck:
    1) Lie about what Hitler said (say Hitler was for "social justice," and MLK wasn't)
    2) Quote Hitler's word as your own ideas.
    3) Claim that your plagiarized Hitler quote is fighting Fascism.

    I keep wondering - where is the physical playbook? This is clearly the Kochs and their dad's John Birch Society legacy.  Is there an actual playbook using the word "Fascism" to define their goal?

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:51:38 AM PDT

  •  From Spitzer to this tool (3+ / 0-)
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    And if Cuomo actually thinks he can beat Hillary, he is on glue.

    Maybe he's just positioning in case HRC decides against or gets sick or something.

  •  These self-proclaimed Masters Of The Universe (2+ / 0-)
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    ... and their megalomania is really starting to wear on me.  Funny how they're all Republicans - every last one of them.  The once Grand Old Party has nothing left but a black soul.

  •  The super rich are apparently terrified. (2+ / 0-)
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    Dem Beans, dougymi

    They seem like a football team that is winning 49-0, and they are so afraid of losing that they are trying to get the other team to quit the game.

    I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. Adlai E. Stevenson

    by shoeless on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 07:56:46 AM PDT

    •  Perhaps the novel "The Gods will have Blood" (1+ / 0-)
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      has been the featured monthly read in the Billionaire's Book Club and they're getting worried about the guillotine making a comeback.

      A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

      by dougymi on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:20:23 AM PDT

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    •  Income inequality rarely ends well for the 1% (2+ / 0-)
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      shoeless, scribeboy

      or their enablers. Mostly throughout history it's civil war, death by angry mob, guillotines and other unsavory events.

      Obama: self-described Republican; backed up by right-wing policies

      by The Dead Man on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:47:40 AM PDT

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  •  A Cuomo - and people wonder why Dems dont bother (3+ / 0-)
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    to vote.

  •  Sounds Like A Huge Fan Of Anders Breivik (1+ / 0-)
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    livingthedream

    The Norwegian white supremacist who killed about 80 children said that "liberals are the real Facists" because of their use of "political correctness."  Because nothing equals Hitler like mild criticism, and nothing spells tolerance like killing children.

    From my diary on Breivik:

    Look, we can kick around the PC controversy, but now we can just say "You know who else is obsessed with political correctness?  Terrorists who slaughter children." And for that Anders, we thank you.
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 08:07:33 AM PDT

  •  His apology is just like Hitler. (0+ / 0-)

    His apology makes me feel just like a slave.

    The fact that I have to listen to his apology is just like tyranny.

    Wasn't it six weeks ago that you couldn't even say a Republican was using Gestapo tactics or something?

    "You know, just because the thing I saw wasn't there doesn't mean there wasn't something there that I didn't see." Ann Althouse, Conservative Thoughtmeister

    by Bill Section 147 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 08:20:17 AM PDT

  •  Don't get carried away (1+ / 0-)
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    The arrogance and stupidity of the original remark can pass without additional comment.  Such arrogance from the likes of Ken Langone is to be expected.

    The apparent endorsement of this non-apology from Andrew Cuomo is, in its own way, is equally arrogant and stupid.  A Democratic politician can not sanction such mindless chatter without consequences down the line.  

    I wonder how this will play the next time Cuomo speaks to a union meeting.

    •  From what little I have read about (0+ / 0-)

      Cuomo , he thinks along the same line as this guy , they hang out with each other for a reason , I just assume all their pals speak the same language along with them

      Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

      by Patango on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 11:20:42 AM PDT

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  •  Teachable moment (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm waiting for Andrew Cuomo to say that this is a "teachable moment" for us to learn the value of civility. And then I will either laugh or vomit.

    One thing we must all remember: He's backing the Democratic candidate (also the incumbent) in the New York governor's race. The plutocrats own both parties.

  •  Cuomo is never going to be president. (5+ / 0-)
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    TLS66, urovermyknee, PinHole, Patango, milkbone

    Not in a million years. But he has a lot of support in Manhattan, Long Island and upstate, so he's probably going to stick around. The bar has been set so low because of years of disfunction in Albany all he had to do was get a few things done and folks are pleased.

    He isnt presidential material at all. Not by a long shot. I cant name one single primary state he would win, including New York's. He will have money, but in the end no natural base of support. And as I always mantra, to be a President you must have a large, national, natural constituency that will be with you for no policy reason at all. He hasnt got it.

  •  Cuomo practically encouraged (1+ / 0-)
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    milkbone

    Jeff Klein and his IDC to break from their fellow Democrats and join with the GOP to allow their continued control of the chamber.  Can you imagine the howls of outrage if Obama had played such games with the US Senate? Cuomo may win re-election handily, but he should definitely be persona non grata in a Democratic presidential primary.  I'd sooner vote for Eliot Spitzer to have his old job back than this guy.

    "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

    by TLS66 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 08:34:15 AM PDT

  •  Is there a worse person than Hitler? (0+ / 0-)

    Do you say people are like Hitler because you want to be friends?

    Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

    by 88kathy on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 08:38:02 AM PDT

  •  My bet: (0+ / 0-)

    The establishment media goes all-in for Cuomo in '16. I can already hear Chuck Todd talking about how Democrats need to find the center and embrace a true bipartisan like Cuomo.

    He's going to be the Villager darling, and if we have any wits about us, he'll be DOA before they even begin counting ballots in Iowa.

  •  The wealthy few (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Friend of the court

    only have power as long as the rest of us allow it.  It is theoretically possible for us to vote in new representatives who look out for the majority.  Since the Reagan years those in positions of influence have taken a slowly increasing proportion of the wealth.  Those who did the work didn't notice  or were distracted by the new trinkets they could buy while the bosses stuffed their pockets.  Once we figured it out we didn't do anything because we sort of wanted to be one of them.  If you join this group and pay these dues and think a certain way then riches will come unto you too.  But the country needs to run and the only way to make that happen is to find funds.  Take it from the rich, no way.  Take a little from everyone else, we'll call that compromise.  In the meantime we hope that those who have taken will decide on their own to share, like they did 40 years ago.  But that has never happened.  So we buy lottery tickets and fill the collection plate and believe that one day we will be one of them too.  If I were a pragmatic politician I'd have a real hard time figuring out what to do.  The radicals have a clearer but more risky vision.

  •  I don't trust Andrew Cuomo. (1+ / 0-)
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    milkbone

    Never have.  Likely never will.

    All that is necessary for the triumph of the Right is that progressives do nothing.

    by Mystic Michael on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:03:33 AM PDT

  •  Cuomo? (1+ / 0-)
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    milkbone

    How vulnerable is Cuomo in NY?  Could he be beaten from the left in a primary?

     

  •  The Billionaire plan for the future of the U.S. (0+ / 0-)

    One of the stranger fallouts from the 2009 Honduran coup has been the scheme hatched by an NYU economist, Paul Romer, along with free-market libertarians—including Milton Friedman’s grandson, Patri; you can’t make this up—to start a bunch of “year-zero” cities in the country, free-market utopias with their own laws, except more savage.
    In any case, the plan has hit a snag in that a committee of the Honduran Supreme Court has declared them unconstitutional, though that ruling could be reversed by the full court. Recently, the lawyer who argued for their unconstitutionality was gunned down. A Conservative tactic.
    Patri Friedman has cleared that point up, saying, in relation to these kind of start-up cities, that “Democracy is the current industry standard political system, but unfortunately it is ill-suited for a libertarian state.” Peter Thiel, founder of Paypall and bankroller of FB and another supporter of the Honduran scheme, wrote: “Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”

    http://coreyrobin.com/...

    You Don't Happen To Make It. You Make It Happen !

    by jeffrey789 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:09:26 AM PDT

  •  "Gov. Quisling... I mean, *Cuomo*...." (1+ / 0-)
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    (no non-pology forthcoming for this particular WWII comparison)

    Gods can do anything. They fear nothing: they are gods. There is one rule, one Seal of Solomon that can confound a god, and to which all gods pay service, to the letter: when belief in a god dies, the god dies. -- Harlan Ellison

    by bsmechanic on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:18:47 AM PDT

  •  Andrew Cuomo should look up Gray Davis (0+ / 0-)

    Gray Davis was the up and coming Governor of CA who had presidential ambitions.  He got lots of funding from Wall Street, especially ENRON.  The bastards at ENRON even persuaded Davis and the legislature to deregulate the power industry in CA.  ENRON proceeded to fuck the citizens of CA over with rolling blackouts to lock in expensive power contracts.  The good people of CA blamed Davis and held a recall election, which resulted in a Republican being elected.

  •  With this... (1+ / 0-)
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    "My remarks were intended to discourage pitting one group against another group in a society."

    ...he seems to be complaining about the GOP electoral strategy since Nixon.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:46:27 AM PDT

  •  He's so very, very sorry (0+ / 0-)

    that in the course of punching down that he didn't make believe that he was really punching up in a manner that passed the laugh test.

    "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

    by raptavio on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 09:48:44 AM PDT

  •  Cuomo the triangulator (1+ / 0-)
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    Cuomo's behavior of late screams setting up for a presidential bid, even though he has little hope of going anywhere.  Although it enrages me to think of it, I have to give him props for pulling the rug out from under Bill de Blasio by offering to fund pre-K statewide, without raising taxes, so that he could be fauxgressive and not piss off potential wealthy NYC-based donors at the same time.  Then there was his stumping for charter schools with Eva Moskowitz, going along with the pillorying of de Blasio as "anti-charter school," even though de Blasio gave approval to the majority of proposed new charter schools and "co-locations." (he approved 36 of 45 proposed new charters and co-locations).  The guy is a first-class d@uche and, unfortunately, a savvy politician.  And for my fellow New Yorkers, is it me, or does the NY media seem to have it in for our new Mayor?  They were all happy to report that his approval rating, after a whopping 10 weeks in office, has dipped.  No one wants to mention what it might be like taking over the largest city in the US after someone who was in office for 12 years...

    •  Yeah, it seems the media has turned (0+ / 0-)

      on DiBlasio big time. Granted, he's made a couple of blunders, but they're treating him worse than they treated Dinkins.

      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 11:40:11 AM PDT

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  •  And don't forget Tom Perkins, saying much the (0+ / 0-)
  •  Lets be fair. (0+ / 0-)

    The man confuses the being asked to pay his fair share of taxes and being slaughtered for being jewish.

    Can we really expect him to be sure if he was being inappropriate?

    Mr. Langone has established that he is in no position to judge anything.

  •  It was only his statement... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...insofar as his lawyers attributed it to him while they were writing it for him.

    It's good to have a PR team on speed-dial.  Wouldn't want anything to interfere with happy hour at the club.

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  •  The Wealthy Saints (0+ / 0-)

    This idiot thinks he owns Heaven.  Money doesn't buy brains or even minimal humanity.  This is why the Evangelicals go for the Prosperity Gospel which doesn't exist except in their preachers heads.  Maybe Kenny will decide to ditch Catholicism for a religion that tells him what he wants.  

  •  Ehhhhh...compost cuomo awready. (0+ / 0-)

    Poverty is not an accident. Like slavery and apartheid, it is man-made and can be removed by the actions of human beings. —Nelson Mandela

    by kaliope on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:02:42 AM PDT

  •  Someone, some (0+ / 0-)

    REAL honest catholic who supports the true mission of the followers of Jesus, for whom the catholic church was built originally, needs to confront Langone and his 1% friends who like to wear their religion on their sleeves, use their money to buy favor from the church, and tell him the truth.

    He and his ilk are the very people Jesus of the bible, of history, was railing against with his words.

    Are they are all just so stupid or have they duped themselves so deeply, as in Scalia, Alito, etc that they actually believe their own hatred, bias and greed to be acceptable to the founder of their religious beliefs.

    SHEESH...these greedy jerks just p*ss me off.

    “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

    by Jjc2006 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 05:00:20 AM PDT

  •  So the United States is a fascist state owned lock (0+ / 0-)

    and barrel by too big to fail corporations.  Our only chance of getting anything we want for the hoi poloi is if we can figure out how to make what we want even more profitable for our too big to fail corporations than business as usual.  Climate catastrophe is such a huge threat to civilization that killing 20% of world population with austerity now to pay for bribing our too big to fail fossil fuel firms to turn themselves into renewable energy firms most likely is a lesser evil than killing 80% of world population and destroying civilization with climate catastrophe in 50 years.  Hardly anything else is worth such an exercise.

  •  Home Despot? O&O. (0+ / 0-)

    Debating with a conservative is like cleaning up your dog's vomit: It is an inevitable consequence of your association, he isn't much help, and it makes very clear the fact that he will swallow anything.

    by David Franks on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 03:38:16 PM PDT

  •  bastards all (0+ / 0-)

    they are bringing about a situation that will end their smugness...

  •  Left-handed apology. (0+ / 0-)

    Not only did Langone fail to make an apology or accept any responsibility, he also blamed progressives for being the ones who were pitting one group against the other.  I guess that it is only class warfare when the exploited stand up for a decent standard of living while the exploiters are making record profits.

  •  As I see (0+ / 0-)

    There is an accurate comparison in this story. Except, the wealthy are the NAZI's (Hilter). They are trying to gather up all the wealth and distort society into what they want. While Hitler was one person we have a collective that have a single objective. So, the Hitler's in this world are the rich. They would deprive all of us of a good paying job, health benefits, any chance to excell to a higher level of wealth. So Mr. Rich man, if you want to see Hitler go look in the mirror.

  •  Abolish Human Abortion (0+ / 0-)

    This far-far-far-far-right anti-abortion group routinely uses Hitler comparisons in its struggle to send women back to the 19th century. One version is "during the Holocaust, 50 million Christians attended German churches. Churches in America have the same problem today.

    https://www.google.com/...

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